Josh and David are joined by Portland Pastor John Mark Comer. They talk about John Mark’s tenure as a mega church pastor and how he eventually stepped down from that role and in many ways grew his church smaller.

John Mark is currently an elder and pastor of vision & teaching at Bridgetown Church in Portland, OR. You can learn more about John Mark at https://johnmarkcomer.com or about Bridgetown Church at http://bridgetown.church